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2009.12.11 00:57:40 (263.)
peglica
Do they still sell the old zsiguli? Did it become euro 4 pollution?
News on nanoplex limiter? I saw polish fitting nanoplex on scooter too,peugeout elyseo. That's incredible. But nothing useful.
Somebody said that grey nanoplex have no limiter because it's in the coil so it takes to swap the coil only but They don't think so.
Bye
2009.12.09 17:35:13 (262.)
petya777

Előzmény: peglica @ 2009.12.06. 23:08:32

Thanks for the tip!
Unfortunately the sponsor shop only can bring it on the new price. :\(

That's right, on zsiguli page, there was an article by Nándi, about the water injection and alternative methanol-based fuels, and that article included some info of fuel octane, ignition and compression ratio. As far as I know, it was only available in hungarian.

"About zsiguli,is it back?"
Waht do you mean? I don't exactly understand the question. :)
2009.12.06 23:08:32 (261.)
peglica
Check if you save money here:
<motomax.pl>
Nearly 2 years ago price was 1/2 for the kit. I tought that was still the old price from sponsor shop.
Sometimes I visited zsiguli page. I couldn't use very well but I rember there was something about compressio ratio,fuel octane and ignition set up by an user "nandy" but it isn't avaiable yet. If you have something.... like that.
About zsiguli,is it back?
Bye
2009.12.06 21:15:45 (260.)
petya777
Here you can find some info about Dellorto DHLA carbs:

<www.teglerizer.com>

And I recommend you to download this is a useful goodie for calculating venturi and jet sizes for Weber DCOE and Dellorto DHLA carbs:
<www.zsiguli.hu>

That CV joint is a good stuff, even some fellaz who are registered on this page are using it,and they really like it. But as far as I know, at the shop it's not available at the moment. :\( The price is not for a pair, it's per piece.
2009.12.05 23:55:06 (259.)
peglica
Thanks for details about carbs. There's the rpm limiter but maybe it isn't a problem for your project. I think that nanoplex works till 600 rpm at the least. I looked for information on 126fan.pl but nothing. You may try to mail to:fiat-126p(at)yahoogroups.com
May you look at the sponsor shop for tripod cv joint/Féltengely csukló komplett ( hardy - menesztő helyére )? If the price is for the whole kit it's very good. It could be interesting for your project but it's recommend not to use the standard 126 clucht. It takes the disk with springs at the centre(sorry for the way of explaying) as 126 bis,fiat 850.....
Where can I find something about carbs,venturi,jets and torque?
Thanks in advance
2009.12.05 18:06:30 (258.)
petya777

Előzmény: peglica @ 2009.12.05. 17:45:28

That's not so simple, the same carb with 40 mm choke would do its best on different rpm ranges if you try various sizes of venturis. My carb has a 31 mm venturi, and it's ideal for 6000-6500 rpm peak power, and approx. 3000 rpm torque peak.
Does Nanoplex have an rpm limiter? That's not too happy for me. :D
2009.12.05 17:45:28 (257.)
peglica
Hello to everybody.
I remember that there was a guide line about carbs on the old fiat&furious page. Unfortunately it disappeared. A 40 carb is used for engine over 7000 rpm.
What about nanoplex? Is it tuned that is rpm limited taken off?
Does somebody know how to do it? I'm sure that people do but I don't know how.
Next time I'll add something on e85 conversion.
Thanks to everybody
2009.11.24 23:08:35 (256.)
petya777

Előzmény: peglica @ 2009.11.18. 23:33:12

Hi, thanks for these links, they are really useful, especially the jetting and ignition advance calculator.
We have some companies here in Hungary which are manufacturing some E85 conversion kits for nearly all type of ECUs.

To fine tune the carb would be a bit more difficult for me, because I'm gonna put Dellorto DHLA on my engine. (It's under construction at the moment. )
The reason why I didn't use Nanoplex is simple: when I first tried E85, I only had the old type, by this time I have bought a Nanoplex, but I don't install it yet, only when my project engine is ready.
2009.11.18 23:33:12 (255.)
peglica
Hello to everybody. Well done Petya. Unfortunately ethanol was an experiment only, I used ethanol from a bottle. It isn't available everywhere. I hope for rapid diffusion in Hungary at least. I'm not an expert but I'd like to add something useful about ethanol and its stoich:
<www.megamanual.com>
On carburattored car the conversion isn't so "flexible" as on injected one that can fit an ecu interceptor and can use every%of mixture.
You can use low %of e85 and do like Petya.
For the conversion on carburattored car it takes to fit bigger carb jets, ignition set up and spark plug "hotter". I found a calculator, of course nothing is sure and mistake can occour. For 100% e85 :spark plug +1°hot, +4° ignition advance:
<translate.google.it>
LPG acessories can be useful for improvement: spark plug cables(Sentech for exemple),spark plug(as brisk).
About pre ignition set,sometimes it takes a switch only.For exemple
there's the expensive 123ignition.nl or a timing advance processor:
<aeb.it>
It isn't very clear to me but I found this too for a mechanical ignition:
<translate.google.it>


To Petya:Why did you prefer old ignition instead of nanoplex?
2009.10.06 17:18:31 (254.)
petya777

Előzmény: peglica @ 2009.10.06. 13:00:08

You can use the stock Nanoplex ECU if you wanna run with E85. I have the standard oldschool mechanical ignition system and I use E85 - 95 octane gas mixture without any modification on the ignition and the fuel system. It may not be the best solution, but I also use the car with 95 octane gasoline 'cuz on some gas stations they just don't sell E85, and I'm simply too lazy to set pre-ignition every time I fill the tank. :D
In this configuration, the engine runs quite well, the only problem is the cold-start: as long as the engine does not reach its normal temperature, it would choke, especially on low RPM-s. When it's warm, it runs quite good: the engine becomes a bit more silent, the idle RPM is a bit lower, and the flexibility of the engine is slightly better. With E85, it takes a longer time for the engine to reach the normal temperature, but on the other hand it would not have problems with overheating. As well, without any modifications the engine can be used, but you can't get out the extra performance that E85 could give you.

Anyway, you can try it, but I don't recommend to try this during winter, 'cuz the cold-starts would drive you crazy. With the Nanoplex ignition you can set the pre-ingition a bit further, to make cold-running a bit handful, and to win some extra performance. All you have to do is to realign the position of the TDC sensor, and find the right point with doing several test trips. The Nanoplex system is clever enough, it decreases the pre ignition if the manifold air pressure (MAP) goes down, and if you set the pre-ignition right, it will prevent you from detonation combustion, which is harmful for the engine. Good luck!

2009.10.06 13:00:08 (253.)
peglica
Hi, no news by me. Centomania answered that they forwared mail to polimpex but no news till now. You were right. Maybe you can count the sold ecu on your fingers. My intention was to look for a better ignition to talk of e85. I think that it's could be interesting...
Has somebody ever tought to use? Does sombody already use or add to petrol?
Thanks in advance
2009.09.24 16:28:56 (252.)
petya777

Előzmény: peglica @ 2009.09.24. 15:35:47

Ok, but I know the owner of Polimpex, (as many other 126-owner does), so i think it would be easier to ask him directly. ;)
Cinquecento 700 is a rare version here in Hungary, so there's a very few fellaz who possibly could have bought this stuff.


petya777 szerkesztette 2009.09.24 16:29:39-kor.
2009.09.24 15:35:47 (251.)
peglica
Hello,thanks. I found centomania on polimpex links so I sent a mail at info@centomania.hu to ask if somebody bought it.
Let's wait for an answer.
2009.09.21 21:32:42 (250.)
petya777

Előzmény: peglica @ 2009.09.21. 19:01:01


Hi! I think you misunderstood the info on that page. Those goodies that Polimpex is selling are the components of the stock Nanoplex system, nothing special. I think that you could replace the stock ECU with this, without any modification.
But I'd ask our fellow to ensure this, if you'd like it.
2009.09.21 19:01:01 (249.)
peglica
I've just done a test. Well, I'd like to ask you all if someone fit ignition ecu by polimpex. That is:
<www.motopol.hu>
It's the nanoplex replacement,they sell all parts but one:the pressureswicht.
<www.motopol.hu> the sensor
<www.motopol.hu> the pulley with trigger wheel
<www.motopol.hu> the coil
The question is if that ecu is exchangeable with the stoch ecu.
Thanks in advance
2009.09.21 18:48:01 (248.)
peglica
Hello to everybody
2008.12.24 20:55:19 (247.)
Lajoska
Merry Xmas to all. And, of course, merry Ymas, too. :)
2008.12.24 16:47:10 (246.)
hoss karoly

Előzmény: nyuszy @ 2008.11.25. 17:08:05


how come there's no one on the map from szeged and pecs ?
(merry x-mas)
2008.12.24 13:08:37 (245.)
Kismákos
I wish everybody a merry Christmas and a happy new year! :) :D ;)
2008.12.24 09:39:13 (244.)
Hüll Attila
Merry X-Mas and Happy newyear :)
2008.11.25 20:57:11 (243.)
hoss karoly

Előzmény: nyuszy @ 2008.11.25. 17:08:05


number one :)
2008.11.25 17:08:05 (242.)
nyuszy
(Székesfehérvár)
world map of maluch ;)
<maps.google.com>
join us ;) send this to whole Hungary ;)

Fifi

(Az esetleges magyar nyelvű ill. egymásnak szóló reakciókat kéretik a Csevegőbe írni.)
2008.10.13 18:12:28 (241.)
JerzyPL
<www.allegro.pl>
<www.allegro.pl>
<www.allegro.pl>
<www.allegro.pl>
<ssl.kundenserver.de>

Rear lamps are almost unavaiable, visit www.allegro.pl sometimes
2008.10.09 16:27:25 (240.)
Szekeresmárton
I have a Fiat Bambino Red(1983).

I would like buy rear lamps and every new or used components what need for it!

E-mail: boncsika@citromail.hu
Messenger:uveg_hegy@freemail.hu

Thanks.

Szekeresmárton szerkesztette 2008.10.09 16:28:15-kor.
2008.06.07 13:46:45 (239.)
Gáspáry László
(Budapest-Diósd)

Előzmény: Kismákos @ 2008.06.07. 10:38:15


Yes I wrote it in polish
(tak, po polsku)

Gáspáry László szerkesztette 2008.06.07 13:48:23-kor.
2008.06.07 10:38:15 (238.)
Kismákos

Előzmény: Gáspáry László @ 2007.12.24. 09:47:18


Is this write in polska?
2008.05.08 00:32:02 (237.)
Marczin Robert
(MISKOLC)

Előzmény: JerzyPL @ 2008.05.08. 00:21:55


I will write it for you, but only few days later, because i have an accident, and i havent got too much free time now.
I promise to you, i will write it in a letter for you.
;)
2008.05.08 00:21:55 (236.)
JerzyPL
Could someone translate info about >Keleti Találkozó 2008< to english?
Thanks for this LEIRAS, i will write sth there soon :)
2008.04.13 15:44:31 (235.)
126fan

Előzmény: nyuszy @ 2008.04.13. 09:22:13


In this context I would rather say 'caption' :)
2008.04.13 09:22:13 (234.)
nyuszy
(Székesfehérvár)
JerzyPL:
'Leírás' means 'description' :)
2008.03.24 14:38:05 (233.)
alexettor
Hi EVERYBODY!! Kisses From Italy :)
2008.02.18 20:51:55 (232.)
Lajoska

Előzmény: Ricsi @ 2008.02.18. 20:40:00


Wtf? :)
2008.02.18 20:40:00 (231.)
Ricsi
(Szeged)
Happy New Februar!!
:D :D
2007.12.24 16:15:27 (230.)
alexettor
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year :)
2007.12.24 11:28:14 (229.)
Suhi

Előzmény: VictorPL @ 2007.12.24. 00:58:56


Merry Christmas!
2007.12.24 09:47:18 (228.)
Gáspáry László
(Budapest-Diósd)

Előzmény: VictorPL @ 2007.12.24. 00:58:56


Wesolych Swiat Bozego Narodzenia oraz Szczesliwego Nowego Roku !
2007.12.24 09:16:34 (227.)
raver
(Pápa)

Előzmény: Tibee @ 2007.12.24. 01:09:31


merry christmas :)

likewise first comment in this topic :) ,but might how yet later on ;)
2007.12.24 01:09:31 (226.)
Tibee
(Salgótarján & Somoskő)

Előzmény: VictorPL @ 2007.12.24. 00:58:56


Thanks! Merry Christmas! :)

Ohh... This is my first comment in this topic. :D :D :D
2007.12.24 00:58:56 (225.)
VictorPL
All the best to all of you...Merry Christmas!!!!
2007.12.14 11:29:25 (224.)
alexettor
Hi there! My new MSN Messenger Contact is: fiat-lancia@hotmail.com
:) Ciao Ciao :)
2007.12.08 02:08:43 (223.)
alexettor
Hey guys :) !!!!
Lots of new pics on <www.cent> Gallery section (called Galleria)
Ciao Ciao
2007.11.28 07:43:42 (222.)
nyuszy
KeMa #222264:
Well, it depends on the aim... : o)
Either way the membership will be happy if they could give assistance to her... : o)
2007.11.27 23:31:03 (221.)
alexettor
Thank you very much guys :) Grazie mille :) You guys are so funny ;)
2007.11.27 22:28:41 (220.)
KeMa
nyuszy #222147: buy? not "make" ? :D :D
2007.11.27 15:30:28 (219.)
nyuszy
hbarby #222143:
You should rather buy a Maluch : o)
2007.11.27 15:27:26 (218.)
Lajoska
nyuszy #222136:
I see. But where is the multilingual topic? :)
2007.11.27 15:16:22 (217.)
hbarby
nyuszy #222136:

Sorry, it seems that I must refresh my knowledge :)
2007.11.27 14:40:48 (216.)
nyuszy
It's an English topic, not a multilingual : o)
2007.11.27 13:35:56 (215.)
hbarby
Lajoska #222125:

I've forgotten the English language so I wrote the same thing that you did, but in Italian ;)
2007.11.27 13:32:36 (214.)
Lajoska
hbarby #222123:
And that is, what I don't understand. :)

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